Former IGP shares my views, Zam tells Indonesians
Malaysiakini.com December 21, 2012
Defiant former information
minister Zainuddin Maidin has told Indonesians "angry with (his)
writing" on the republic's leaders that even Malaysia's former
inspector-general of police Abdul Rahim Noor agrees with him.
Rahim had, in an interview with Mingguan Malaysia on Dec 16, revealed that Indonesia's leaders are mentors to PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim, Zainuddin said in a posting on his blog yesterday.
Referring to Indonesia's third president BJ Habibie, fourth president Abdurrahman Wahid (Gus Dur) and Amien Rais, who played a prominent role in ousting Suharto, Rahim said Anwar learnt about "reformasi and democracy" from Indonesia.
Rahim had, in an interview with Mingguan Malaysia on Dec 16, revealed that Indonesia's leaders are mentors to PKR de facto leader Anwar Ibrahim, Zainuddin said in a posting on his blog yesterday.
Referring to Indonesia's third president BJ Habibie, fourth president Abdurrahman Wahid (Gus Dur) and Amien Rais, who played a prominent role in ousting Suharto, Rahim said Anwar learnt about "reformasi and democracy" from Indonesia.
"It's not wrong for
Anwar to befriend them, it's his right, but it's wrong when he makes up
conspiracies to betray his own country," Zainuddin (left), a former editor-in-chief of Utusan Malaysia said.
Zainuddin added that this was why Rahim, when commenting on his (Zainuddin's) article calling Indonesia's former president BJ Habibie a "dog of imperalism", advised Malaysians to "defend the Malaysian way of life".
"We Malaysians have always been alert to the dangers (of globalisation) since accepting democracy from the British, and we will continue to be on alert against elements of globalisation, especially Anwar.
"The evidence is too many. Read Rahim's interview with a cool head," says Zainuddin, whose writing has prompted an official complaint from Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.
'Invisible hands'
In the interview, Rahim said Anwar's close relationship with the Indonesian leaders was a cause of concern as it could mean the spread of Indonesia's liberalism and secularism to Malaysia.
"I am worried that the opposition is not only learning from the Indonesian experience of political struggle, but trying to bring the reformasi-style struggle to our country.
Zainuddin added that this was why Rahim, when commenting on his (Zainuddin's) article calling Indonesia's former president BJ Habibie a "dog of imperalism", advised Malaysians to "defend the Malaysian way of life".
"We Malaysians have always been alert to the dangers (of globalisation) since accepting democracy from the British, and we will continue to be on alert against elements of globalisation, especially Anwar.
"The evidence is too many. Read Rahim's interview with a cool head," says Zainuddin, whose writing has prompted an official complaint from Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono.
'Invisible hands'
In the interview, Rahim said Anwar's close relationship with the Indonesian leaders was a cause of concern as it could mean the spread of Indonesia's liberalism and secularism to Malaysia.
"I am worried that the opposition is not only learning from the Indonesian experience of political struggle, but trying to bring the reformasi-style struggle to our country.
"From a wider
perspective, there are invisible hands playing their role in the background to
ensure that Muslim leaders are liberal, open and suitable to their global
strategy," Rahim (right) says in
the Mingguan Malaysia report.
Among others, he said, Habibie in his speech in Malaysia was reported to have given the impression that Indonesia was more "advanced" when it came to issues surrounding sexuality and gender.
"It is as if Habibie is proud of Indonesia's lifestyle (on lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender issues) and felt it was odd for Malaysians to have such a reaction on such moral issues," he said.
Commending Zainuddin for a "brave" article, the former top cop said Indonesia's leaders had "sketchy" backgrounds and associations, and alluded that they may have been "chosen" by the global superpowers.
Amien chosen by the US?
"It is expected for a superpower like the US to take proactive measures, like choosing individuals to be pushed up, as leaders in the Muslim world.
"Amien was considered a moderate and liberal Muslim in Indonesia, and a member of the NGO Jaringan Islam Liberal (JIL) with... Gus Dur," he said.
Among others, he said, Habibie in his speech in Malaysia was reported to have given the impression that Indonesia was more "advanced" when it came to issues surrounding sexuality and gender.
"It is as if Habibie is proud of Indonesia's lifestyle (on lesbian-gay-bisexual-transgender issues) and felt it was odd for Malaysians to have such a reaction on such moral issues," he said.
Commending Zainuddin for a "brave" article, the former top cop said Indonesia's leaders had "sketchy" backgrounds and associations, and alluded that they may have been "chosen" by the global superpowers.
Amien chosen by the US?
"It is expected for a superpower like the US to take proactive measures, like choosing individuals to be pushed up, as leaders in the Muslim world.
"Amien was considered a moderate and liberal Muslim in Indonesia, and a member of the NGO Jaringan Islam Liberal (JIL) with... Gus Dur," he said.
He claimed that liberalism
flourished under the rule of Gus Dur (left), which saw
the growth of Komunitas Utan Kayu "which is active in defending freedom of
speech and the LGBT agenda".
He also said that "there is information that Gus Dur had admitted" to connecting Anwar with former World Bank president Paul Wolfowitz.
"Apparently, the meeting was to make Anwar the middleman in their efforts to stop Muslim youths from making Islam as their life guide and from pursuing the goal of an Islamic state.
"In short, their goal was to turn the younger generation of Muslims into liberal thinkers," Rahim said, adding that Wolfowitz is part of a "neo conservative Jewish lobby group".
He also said that "there is information that Gus Dur had admitted" to connecting Anwar with former World Bank president Paul Wolfowitz.
"Apparently, the meeting was to make Anwar the middleman in their efforts to stop Muslim youths from making Islam as their life guide and from pursuing the goal of an Islamic state.
"In short, their goal was to turn the younger generation of Muslims into liberal thinkers," Rahim said, adding that Wolfowitz is part of a "neo conservative Jewish lobby group".
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When it is Broken, Don’t
Fix it, Just CHANGE it to a New one…..
Defiant former information
minister Zainuddin Maidin and Malaysia's former inspector-general of police
Abdul Rahim Noor don’t have a clue how was Indonesians way of thinking. They never
been in Indonesia when Suharto was the President , they never been in Indonesia
when Suharto fall, they don’t know what happen when Indonesians Majlis
Perwakilan Rakyat (MPR) voted to release Timor Timor, they was not there when
B.J.Habibie, Gus Dur, Megawati and Bambang was the President. What the fuck
they know. I was there since 1993 to 2001 and always visit my family and
friends there after that.
Indonesia has become the biggest economy among south east Asia country, even though they have tsunami, earthquake and lots of natural disaster and huge politic crises. But they still become the strongest economy. They have more FDI than Malaysia.
All this because of, they change the government from Suharto. They change it with REFORMASI. Also because they are liberal and secular country. Even though they are liberal that doesn’t mean they don’t go to mosque or church or they stop praying. They are more pious than most Malaysians Muslims. Just look at our mosque when Friday prayers come. It’s half empty all the time since long time ago. Don’t tell me the population doesn’t grow. Come la, don’t they produce babies anymore?
I know who is Gus Dur, BJ Habibie, Amien Rais, Megawati, Bambang and more other, that I can’t mention their name here. They are champion of democracy and human value. They love their country and people. They hate corruption. After Suharto fell the authority of Indonesia put lots of corrupted official and businessman into prison. Even Bambang (the President now) put his father in law in jail for corruption.
Maybe this is why Zainuddin Maidin and Abdul Rahim and most of the former ministers and official are scared. They scared they will end up in prison. They said we must defend the Malaysian way of life. Arent we are bangsa serumpun. Doesn’t most of Malaysian come from Indonesia? Where did Parameswara the first Sultan of Melaka come from????
And what is Malaysia way of life??? Is it corruption is our way of life???? Fuck no man…. NOOO….
BJ Habibie said Indonesia are more “advanced “ when it came to issues surrounding sexuality and gender not because he supports LGBT, he said that because Indonesians respect human value and human rights. BJ Habibie is a pious Muslim and one of the most brilliant guys in the world. He is one of the best Aviation Engineer in the World. He is not stupid when he said that and he is not certainly a dog of imperialism. He hates imperialism and so all the Indonesians. Remember one thing, Indonesia get they independent from the Dutch with blood and lifes. I know how Indonesians way of thinking because I stay there for 8 years. I have a wife and family there.
Gus Dur is the leader of Nahdlatul Ulama(NU), NU is a Islam Movement. Amien Rais is a leader of Muhammadiyah the biggest muslim movement in Indonesia. Both have early education in Islam, they even studied in sekolah pondok and pesantrian. Well do you think they support LGBT???? Zainuddin Maidin know about this. But still he accused them wrogly. He should apologize. Zainuddin Maidin also know both of them hate corruption. Because of Gus Dur and Amien Rais, lots of ex Ministers in Indonesia which are corrupt and misuse their position have ended up in prison. This is what Zainuddin Maidin is scared of. Don’t be scared, if u don’t do anything wrong. And always remember, what goes around will come back to you. Allah is Great and Fair.
And whats wrong if Anwar have friend with with former World Bank president Paul Wolfowitz???? Whats wrong if he have financial support from World Bank. Everybody needs financial support. Nobody can survive in this world without money. And politics need lots of money. Even Mahathir asked support from World Bank and IMF when he was just coming up in politics. But he didn't get it, he get it from Ananda Krishnan. Everybody knows that. I think its nothing wrong to get financial support from anyone for your politics.
Again Zainuddin Maidin said
Malaysian youth are stupid. Especially Muslim youth. Muslim youth must be like
idiots and follow what government says. They should not have freedom of
thinking, and they should not ask any question. Just follow. They want the youth
to be dummy. This is wrong. Youth in Malaysia have already and always following
the way of Islam. Islam always will be their guide in life. That’s why we need
to change. Changing to something good is the way of Islam. Put corrupted
ministers, officials, businessman and people into prison is the way of Islam. This
is the youth want and nobody can change that.
Please don’t insult a great
leader like BJ habibie, Gus dur, Amien Rais or other refomasi leaders from
Indonesia. Because of them, Indonesia economy is getting better day by day and
one day will become like China and Japan. All these because of them who started
first. They change the broken one to a new one, because they know old one can’t
be fix anymore.
One thing for sure is,
life goes on……
